Comments on: Aggressive Marketing Tarnishing Cerebellum Based Treatments?

By: Chris Tregenza

Chris Tregenza — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:56:44 +0000

This comment thread has veered significantly from the subject of Dore’s sales and marketing techniques. In doing so both sides have crossed the line from robust debate about an important subject into personal attacks on named individuals. Myomancy is not the place for this and the participants have plenty of other avenues through which they can settle their grievances.

This comment thread is now closed.

By: paula

paula — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:47:27 +0000

Bob is it true any PA less than 70% of target next month will be put on formal disciplinary?

By: sue

sue — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:32:42 +0000

Bob, Moved from another thread is an adjective not a noun

By: sue

sue — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:21:42 +0000

Its inte link http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/scientists_resi.html#comments

By: bob clarke

bob clarke — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:11:05 +0000

To set the record straight.

Whilst i recognise the person calling themselves moved from another thread, i didn’t see anywhere her disclose her name as Chrissie.

The fact surrounding her daughter are not as clear cut as outlined.

Appointments were missed and phone calls from the centre to rearrange were not returned. We got to a stage whereby some 6/7 months had passed between an appointments. Mr G was advised that we would have to undertake a new first assessment and he was not prepared to pay for ths.

I currently have 2 of my family on the programme and have another 6 year old son experiencing severe problems at school. How dare any of you say i do not care. The very reason i am passionate about this job is my love of all children.

By: bob.clarke

bob.clarke — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:00:39 +0000

Moved from another thread.

I think you should get your facts right before making a post. Several of the comments made by you are factually incorrect. Your husband may not have told you the total truth.

I do not mind constructive critism but when it becomes overly personal and incorrect i will not sit back.

We are achieving truely emarkable things here without the need of aggressive sales techniques.

One thing i find really wierd is that we have not had one serious complaint from a customer in 15 months complaining of aggressive sales techniques.

We are changing lives, we do not need your distractions.

By: sue

sue — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:15:40 +0000

Denise, as a current employee do you recognise any of Chrissie’s comments as having any truth, she says Bob stopped her daughter completing the program when her partner left surely that’s not a nice thing and perhaps you can understand why she would want to pass comments, she has also offered her email address and is saying good things about the program.

Also PA mentioned something that only a current employee would know ;an internal email which Bob responded to so they must be who they say they are albeit a false email address.

By: paula

paula — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:07:24 +0000

my email address is not fake however i have a filter on where only people in my address book and contact me, Denise i am not disputing the programme works what i am doing is disputing the fact that you assume these are all fake claims based on peoples email address, If you wish a private chate with me tell me here and i will open my inbox to you i have nothing to hide.

By: Denise

Denise — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:53:30 +0000

What a suprise I tried to email paula to have a private conversation & guess what fake address. But that is besides the point I am a current dore pa & as I said before everyone agrees this program works & changes peoples lives. So why are these people determined to undermine that by having this tacky public spat due to sour grapes. I work in the northern region maybe the south is different but I will reiterate I have never used a toilet close I don’t lie to clients & have only hit target 2 or 3 times in 13 months & have never once been threatened with dismissal. Indeed when my 2 children have been ill They have been very understanding & I have always made up the time Give & take the way it works in any organisation. Lets end this petty dispute with a reminder THIS PROGRAM WORKS & CHANGES LIVES YOU MAY BE PUTTING OF PEOPLE WHO CAN REALLY BE HELPED!!!!!!!

By: Moved from other thread

Moved from other thread — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:21:32 +0000

My partner was employed by Dore as a Sales Manager, as an ex employee he will not hear a bad word about the program, he truly believes that the Dore program works and even 4 months after quitting the company regularly keeps in contact with people that he enroled in order to guage their improvement.

The problem with the Dore Program is that the sales set up is just not professional enough and sales staff are continually threatened with losing their jobs by the CEO Bob Clarke or his assistant, Zoe Mckenzie.

Unfortunately neither of these people have a clue about running a sales team, both were dismissed from Bulldog Communications for that very reason, that requires compassion, and believe me Dore is based on compassion.

When my partner quit his job Bob Clarke cancelled my daughters program and stopped her from completing the course. What a nice guy!!!!!!!

Bob Clarke may have graced these pages with his words of wisdom but what he hasn’t told you is that the reps are set monthly targets indicating how many people they have to sign up, how can you be truthful and compassionate if you are being forced by your managers to get at least 16 enrolments per month.

Imagine the pressure that can be put to bear on parents who are worried about their child, make them cry, urges Bob Clarke upon returning from Australia. If we make you feel like a failure as a parent and we can offer you the answer how can you avoid signing up?

Unfortunately these are marketing strategies that should not be linked to Dore, and are unfortunately giving Dore a bad name, but are the only ones that Clarke and McKenzie know.

I truly believe, that in 99 out of a 100 cases, Dore could be the answer to your prayers, but until they change their CEO and Regional Sales Managers I would avoid having them in your home.

My partner believes that Wynford Dore and his daughter Susie are two of the nicest people that you could ever wish to meet. He may be rich and successful, he may be a business man but he really cares.

If you have a child that needs help in any of these areas call the booking line number and arrange an assessment, do not get a sales person out to see you, and try to get seen by Dr Tilly, he is truly brilliant and had his own son put on the program before he ever worked for Dore.

If you are not satisfied after having had the assessment then please feel free to email me and I will do my best to explain how it works but you must understand that because of the changes that my partner saw in people I am a believer.

I wish every success to Wynford and Susie and a plague of rats on bob and zoe.

You may feel that this is sour grapes etc but my partner quit Dore of his own accord due to stress related illness and is now earning better money and enjoying life again.

Think strongly about Dore but try to bypass the sales system as you do not want to feel pressured into something.

The last thing to remember is that in order to complete the Dore program you are looking at a years hard work for a life changing experience.