I’ll trust my intelligence and problem solving any day over a doctor, the govt, etc when it comes to being sick…or NOT being sick. I’m 45 and maybe had the flu maybe 4 or 5 times in my life. I’ve travelled a lot over the last 20 years sitting in airports and airplanes (breeding grounds for viruses) going to different countries and if I do get a cold, etc…its because I have let myself get run down and I didn’t take care of my immune system. Just drinking 8 glasses of water (not tap water) a day can make a huge difference.
To the person who claims I’m riding on their coattails…F You!!…YOU’RE propagating the problem. Take some responsibility for your own immune system and health. Get exercise, sleep, eat vegetables, drink good water, add herbs and spices rich in nutrients (try some garlic and turmeric)…boost your immune system and let IT do what IT actually is SUPPOSED to do and is far better at than what govts and the profit hungry industry can provide. To the person who said check reliable sources like the FDA and CDC…are you kidding???? The FDA reliable and competent??? That absolutely baffles me. Now my question is WHY isn’t the govt declaring a national emergency on all of the above. People wake up…this H1N1 hype is a bunch of crap and it is way overhyped compared with # of deaths for reasons that reach much further into our lives.

I’ll bet that eating mercury tainted tuna is far less harmful then having it injected directly into your bloodstream where it instantly comes in contact with tissue.

So what if the tuna has even more mercury in it?

It’s got a lot to go through thanks to the digestive process.

I’m sure that less mercury would reach my brain from the tuna vs any vaccine.

And if all those dread diseases have been eradicated then why are these vaccines still mandated??

Is it to protect me if I happen to travel to a third world country?

If so then I’ll consider taking whatever particular vaccines I might need before I travel to said country:)

But honestly who wants to go anywhere that would make you have to risk your health or life to be able to go there?

Third world countries can’t be compared to the U.S. The most proven reduction of disease in any civilization is, Clean water, good hygiene, Sanitation and nutrition which third world countries don’t have.

Before vaccines were introduced, many deaths in the U.S. from disease were reduced greatly by clean water, good hygiene, Sanitation and nutrition. When the measles vaccine was introduced, the death rate was under 100 in roughly 180,000 cases annually.

There aren’t any vaccines for scarlet fever or typhoid fever and you don’t see any cases and death of those diseases anymore. What was the course of those diseases to vanish?

Also, I’m looking at a flu vaccine insert and it states 25 mcg of mercury not 25 mcg of thimerosal.

It should be noted that according to the EPA about 10% of methylmercury ingested gets into the blood and diminishes over time. So the limits and calculations spoken by others were assuming the EPA injested limits, rather than how it translates into blood limits. Whether ethyl or methyl, the exposure limit seems very high, at least an order of magnitude, which is why swordfish or shark is not advised to be eaten by expecting mothers. Ethylmercury may be safer in some respects, considering it leaves the body sooner, but I think this should bring some concern to mind–particularly to those most sensitive (like children). This may be where genetics + environmental factors are at play, which is why some may be more neurologically affected.

I’m not wholly against vaccines and I may still get some as needed, but I think it right to at least raise concern for further investigation. In fact, some vaccines contain far less thimerosol and this may be useful–not sure how the other ingredients affect us, though also worth looking into. The flu vaccine, however, seems pointless since the virus mutates and it is such a hit or miss. Good to hear both sides regardless.

I worked in Alaska for a number of years in public health. Alaska Natives (some are called Eskimo, but the right names are Inupiat, Athabaskan, etc). AK natives vaccinate because they still remember the large numbers of kids dying from meningitis prior to the Hib vaccine introduced in the 80s. I took care of many kids that had cerebral palsy or developmental delays from this horrible disease. They were the lucky ones-because they survived.

I became friends with many folks working on curbing these diseases.They made less money than most docs and were so dedicated and compassionate. When I hear the “BIg pharma” arguments, I think people should realize most of the scientists/pediatricians will NOT let a bad vaccine go to market. Pediatricians really care about kids and can make much less money doing what they really love-making sure kids are healthy.

A good sight that still is not closed on the vaccine debate but really is discovery good information on the genetics of autism is the MIND center at UC Davis. Look it up.

Same for diphtheria (a horrible disease during which you would watch your child suffocate to death). My father had diphtheria as a child–he almost died, was gasping for breath; his nails turned black from lack of oxygen; and recovery time was three to four months.

Even chicken pox, while not too dangerous for kids, can cause severe complications for adults, so if you don’t get chicken pox as a child, you have to be really careful not to catch it as an adult–or get vaccinated. But many young adults don’t regularly see doctors, so they need to get vaccinated as children or else forgo the protection. Same thing with HepB vaccines–by the time they are sexually active, teens and young adults are not likely to see a doctor for a vaccine.

A few more comments:

Flu vaccines don’t contain 25 mcg of ethylmercury; they contain 25 mcg of thimerosol, which translates to approximately 12.5 mcg of ethylmercury. That should change the calculations of the poster who figured out the maximum allowable daily intake of mercury.

Any child born in 2003 or later has had less mercury in all his vaccines combined than he would eating a single 6 oz. can of albacore tuna.

Children don’t cry for hours after a vaccination shot. Mine cried for about 30 seconds after each one. He cried a lot more when he had the flu and all his muscles ached.

And totally off-topic, to the poster who “didn’t have spell-check” on his/her phone: Good Lord, proofread your own work before sending it out; don’t rely on a machine to do it for you.

Dose per unit of time is the key. If you’re really concerned about mercury in vaccines for your children, space out the injections, and don’t get multi-valents, get single vaccines if possible. It’s not as convenient, but the total dose of thimerosal will be very low.

As for autism, more and more evidence is accumulating that it’s mostly a combination of inherited genes and a developmental disorder having no relationship to immunotherapy. The “blame” lies in your chromosomes and during pregnancy, not after birth.

Just don’t feed your kids tuna (contains methylmercury) at 10-60 mcg of mercury per 6 oz can depending on the type of tuna and the fishing location.

http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/?p=510

people saying organomercury compounds arent a safety hazard need to remember who they are quoting. I remember how many years we were told tobacco is ok – and for vested interests mercury toxicity makes the tobacco liability look like a cake walk. That wouldnt affect opinions would it?

Thimerosal is a neurotoxic chemical that can cause the destruction of brain cells.

This is fact and nothing can alter this.

Chemical reactions and chemical properties are fixed and no amount of research by FDA or CDC can change the laws of science.

Thimerosal needs to come out of vaccines and at present the exposure recommended by CDC to vaccinate the pregnant mother is disgraceful and amounts to attempted murder.

You can never prove negatives but only positives. Thimerosal does take away the mind and this has been known for thousands of years and hence yes autism will be ancient too.

It can also kill, so before bemoaning one dead child, what about the 1 million SIDS for USA alone.

Despite all this over use, early use and repeated use it didnt stop the child mentioned from dying or many others today.

There is a stack of information on mercury and the harm caused and the debate over methyl and ethyl is sick. For information thimerosal contains both forms as it is so impure.

Also the product when reacting with all thats in vaccines is insoluble so if you dont shake, imagine what the last one gets?

My orange juice is shaken but even so the last glass is full of bits of orange at much greater levels than the first fully shaken glass.

OOOPS

I was of an age to get my vaccines and tell people if they were bad. They weren’t. But at age one day or in the womb when children cry for hours afterwards? Classic signs of incredible harm perhaps?