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		<title>By: jack smith</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-136882</link>
		<dc:creator>jack smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dore equals snake oil.</description>
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		<title>By: Busted</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-59266</link>
		<dc:creator>Busted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad that Dore is bust good riddance to smoke and mirrors and terrible sales processes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad that Dore is bust good riddance to smoke and mirrors and terrible sales processes</p>
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		<title>By: eraina brien</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>eraina brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, sheffield and manchester centres are having open days on 10th 11th 12th september 12pm til 8pm so you could go see for yourself about testing, talk to other people who arnt paid by dore...? i dont know where your nearest centre would be but you could call and see if they have an open day?xx just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, sheffield and manchester centres are having open days on 10th 11th 12th september 12pm til 8pm so you could go see for yourself about testing, talk to other people who arnt paid by dore&#8230;? i dont know where your nearest centre would be but you could call and see if they have an open day?xx just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: eraina brien</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>eraina brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave J, see quinnells latest test for adult improvements,..also i beleive that the programme works the same for adults and children. if you care to email me i will send you the examples of the improvements i have seen in my sons handwriting etc xx  erainabrien@msn.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave J, see quinnells latest test for adult improvements,..also i beleive that the programme works the same for adults and children. if you care to email me i will send you the examples of the improvements i have seen in my sons handwriting etc xx  <a href="mailto:erainabrien@msn.com">erainabrien@msn.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave J</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

My wife is seriosuly thinking of enrolling at DORE. 

She has not been diagnosed as dyslexic, as she has never seen a specialist before.She displays some symptoms though.

Are there any adults out there who have tried the treatment, and how have they found it?

2 grand is a lot of money, so I would appreciate some feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>My wife is seriosuly thinking of enrolling at DORE. </p>
<p>She has not been diagnosed as dyslexic, as she has never seen a specialist before.She displays some symptoms though.</p>
<p>Are there any adults out there who have tried the treatment, and how have they found it?</p>
<p>2 grand is a lot of money, so I would appreciate some feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: eraina brien</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>eraina brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not paid by or affiliated with Dore in any professional sense. However my son has completed the Dore programme, and I cannot explain to you how it has changed his life for the better. (On meeting Wynford Dore himself, yesterday, my son told him he had &#039;saved&#039; his life) he&#039;s nine now, and for a nine year old to make that dramitic statement without any prompting from me shows how unhappy he was before.  
Never at anytime was I pressured into the Dore programme, but I truely believe it is without doubt the BEST thing Ive ever done for my son!
I think the big point re sales is that, there are parents who&#039;d &#039;like&#039; to put their children on the programme and parents who WANT to...a big difference.... I spoke to a parent whose two children quite obviously had problems and I KNOW the programme could help them, but she told be she couldnt afford it...a fair point... but then she went on to tell me she had just spent £7000 on a holiday!!!! for 2 weeks....we are talking the whole of a childs life here..go to Butlins for a fornight ffs, its NOT that some people cant afford it (im sure there are plenty who cant, I was a single parent when I put my son on it, but I found away to do it)its that some(by no means all) SELFISH parents would rather blow the money on two weeks jollies...well Shame on them... this is our childres lives and future happiness and well being we are talking about...how do you put a price on that? the answer is simple..you cant!
If the  BDA and pharmacutical companies were EVER to admit Dore works, then they would be wiping out a whole industry...think about it....
Dore is NOT a miracle cure, if it were you would take a pill, that costs £1 and you would be cured.... The dore programme means commitment and effort from parents/clients to comply with the exercises, to do them properly and regularly (beleive me when I say there are times I wanted to quit)and to maintain sincere effort over a substanial period of time, irrelevant of other commitments at home and work etc... thats not a miracle cure..thats damn&#039;d hard work....BUT...Id do it all over again if I had too. I hope in five years time Dore is a household name and Ritalin is a thing of the past. As you can tell I am VERY VERY passionate about this programme, I have examples of Jordans writing before and after Dore, if you would like to see them or have any questions re Dore please email me erainabrien@msn.com...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not paid by or affiliated with Dore in any professional sense. However my son has completed the Dore programme, and I cannot explain to you how it has changed his life for the better. (On meeting Wynford Dore himself, yesterday, my son told him he had &#8217;saved&#8217; his life) he&#8217;s nine now, and for a nine year old to make that dramitic statement without any prompting from me shows how unhappy he was before.<br />
Never at anytime was I pressured into the Dore programme, but I truely believe it is without doubt the BEST thing Ive ever done for my son!<br />
I think the big point re sales is that, there are parents who&#8217;d &#8216;like&#8217; to put their children on the programme and parents who WANT to&#8230;a big difference&#8230;. I spoke to a parent whose two children quite obviously had problems and I KNOW the programme could help them, but she told be she couldnt afford it&#8230;a fair point&#8230; but then she went on to tell me she had just spent £7000 on a holiday!!!! for 2 weeks&#8230;.we are talking the whole of a childs life here..go to Butlins for a fornight ffs, its NOT that some people cant afford it (im sure there are plenty who cant, I was a single parent when I put my son on it, but I found away to do it)its that some(by no means all) SELFISH parents would rather blow the money on two weeks jollies&#8230;well Shame on them&#8230; this is our childres lives and future happiness and well being we are talking about&#8230;how do you put a price on that? the answer is simple..you cant!<br />
If the  BDA and pharmacutical companies were EVER to admit Dore works, then they would be wiping out a whole industry&#8230;think about it&#8230;.<br />
Dore is NOT a miracle cure, if it were you would take a pill, that costs £1 and you would be cured&#8230;. The dore programme means commitment and effort from parents/clients to comply with the exercises, to do them properly and regularly (beleive me when I say there are times I wanted to quit)and to maintain sincere effort over a substanial period of time, irrelevant of other commitments at home and work etc&#8230; thats not a miracle cure..thats damn&#8217;d hard work&#8230;.BUT&#8230;Id do it all over again if I had too. I hope in five years time Dore is a household name and Ritalin is a thing of the past. As you can tell I am VERY VERY passionate about this programme, I have examples of Jordans writing before and after Dore, if you would like to see them or have any questions re Dore please email me <a href="mailto:erainabrien@msn.com">erainabrien@msn.com</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know of an &quot;independent&quot; research study?

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		<title>By: Richard Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the unique position of being both a customer of Dore and former employee on their sales force. For me there is little doubt that the programme works. However as this blog has unveiled ; there is a problem within the UK Sales Force. You may be under the illusion this blog is merely the rantings of disgruntled ex-Dore sales employees. I say there is no smoke without fire. 

B. Warneder&#039;s comments, may sound a classic example of sacked employee resentment but i can assure you there is some truth to what he says. Bob is Dore&#039;s Sales Director and i might add a very likable character. I can confirm that Mal Lipps (Dore&#039;s Sales Training Manager and quite possibly one of the &#039;cronies&#039; that B.Warneder speaks of) was brought over from Bobs last company to Dore when he became sales director. Bob told me this himself.  

During my training to become a Programme &#039;Advisor&#039; Mal taught us the standard speel about how to present to potential clients. However Mal then told us that parent&#039;s of dyslexic children could often be &quot;s$%ts&quot; and that we may have to give them quite a lot of &quot;encouragement&quot; in order to make the sale. Mal lost his temper several times over this point. He said he was very angry that parents could be so cold hearted and not allow their kids a chance to be rid of there learning disabilities. We were then instructed that if parents were not willing to sign that we should make them feel extremely guilty about their choice. At one point i lost my temper because i thought it was not only rather disgusting that we were being taught to do this but i also felt that the product was good and if the presentation was good there would be no reason to have to resort to this rather pathetic tactic. Mal didnt take kindly to this suggestion  and i was promptly told that perhaps i wasnt quite ready to sell for Dore yet. I spent the next few weeks trying to convince him otherwise as i was still eager to work for the company. Eventually i got the  green light from both Mal and the Sales Manager for the South of England (Zoe Mackenzie). However i was told that there was a new Head of London Sales and i had to be re-interviewed with her. During the interview it became clear that this new manager held rather similar views to Mal. She was a no nonsense sort of character who had clearly been put in position by Zoe to try and address the discrepancy in Sales figures between the South and North Of England. I had put across that i was really keen to get people to sign up because i thought it was for the benefit of everyone involved including the company. She was not impressed and clearly wanted a hard nosed salesmen. At this point i tried to salvage the situation and convince her that i was &#039;all about the sale&#039;. I can only imagine that she was not convinced because i was not contacted about the position subsequent to our meeting.

Make what you will of my story </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the unique position of being both a customer of Dore and former employee on their sales force. For me there is little doubt that the programme works. However as this blog has unveiled ; there is a problem within the UK Sales Force. You may be under the illusion this blog is merely the rantings of disgruntled ex-Dore sales employees. I say there is no smoke without fire. </p>
<p>B. Warneder&#8217;s comments, may sound a classic example of sacked employee resentment but i can assure you there is some truth to what he says. Bob is Dore&#8217;s Sales Director and i might add a very likable character. I can confirm that Mal Lipps (Dore&#8217;s Sales Training Manager and quite possibly one of the &#8216;cronies&#8217; that B.Warneder speaks of) was brought over from Bobs last company to Dore when he became sales director. Bob told me this himself.  </p>
<p>During my training to become a Programme &#8216;Advisor&#8217; Mal taught us the standard speel about how to present to potential clients. However Mal then told us that parent&#8217;s of dyslexic children could often be &#8220;s$%ts&#8221; and that we may have to give them quite a lot of &#8220;encouragement&#8221; in order to make the sale. Mal lost his temper several times over this point. He said he was very angry that parents could be so cold hearted and not allow their kids a chance to be rid of there learning disabilities. We were then instructed that if parents were not willing to sign that we should make them feel extremely guilty about their choice. At one point i lost my temper because i thought it was not only rather disgusting that we were being taught to do this but i also felt that the product was good and if the presentation was good there would be no reason to have to resort to this rather pathetic tactic. Mal didnt take kindly to this suggestion  and i was promptly told that perhaps i wasnt quite ready to sell for Dore yet. I spent the next few weeks trying to convince him otherwise as i was still eager to work for the company. Eventually i got the  green light from both Mal and the Sales Manager for the South of England (Zoe Mackenzie). However i was told that there was a new Head of London Sales and i had to be re-interviewed with her. During the interview it became clear that this new manager held rather similar views to Mal. She was a no nonsense sort of character who had clearly been put in position by Zoe to try and address the discrepancy in Sales figures between the South and North Of England. I had put across that i was really keen to get people to sign up because i thought it was for the benefit of everyone involved including the company. She was not impressed and clearly wanted a hard nosed salesmen. At this point i tried to salvage the situation and convince her that i was &#8216;all about the sale&#8217;. I can only imagine that she was not convinced because i was not contacted about the position subsequent to our meeting.</p>
<p>Make what you will of my story</p>
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		<title>By: Cant Reveal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cant Reveal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just see the list, there will be sackings again soon, although I beleive one in Southampton has jumped already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just see the list, there will be sackings again soon, although I beleive one in Southampton has jumped already</p>
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		<title>By: B.Warneder.</title>
		<link>http://www.myomancy.com/2006/11/dore_program_se/comment-page-1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Warneder.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen all this about Dore&#039;s Management..Can someone tell me is it the simple unproffessionalism of the management or is it 
(like my experience)the lousy unfairness, almost ditatorship, of Bobs and his cronies regime that has caused this barrage of critisism ? These people who are lucky they knew Bob before have jobs for the boys.....they could not do the job they get others to do and would  find it impossible to get a job with such power anywhere where they had to establish themselves WITHOUT Bob holding their hand.
So unreasonable, so unfair. This is why people want to smash the bubble, and this will be done by hook or by what they are used to .........by crook.
Happy New Year Colonel Bob and best wishes to Von Friel and co .........enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen all this about Dore&#8217;s Management..Can someone tell me is it the simple unproffessionalism of the management or is it<br />
(like my experience)the lousy unfairness, almost ditatorship, of Bobs and his cronies regime that has caused this barrage of critisism ? These people who are lucky they knew Bob before have jobs for the boys&#8230;..they could not do the job they get others to do and would  find it impossible to get a job with such power anywhere where they had to establish themselves WITHOUT Bob holding their hand.<br />
So unreasonable, so unfair. This is why people want to smash the bubble, and this will be done by hook or by what they are used to &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;by crook.<br />
Happy New Year Colonel Bob and best wishes to Von Friel and co &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;enjoy.</p>
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