Of Comments and the Nature of Open Debate
If you allow people to speak freely then there are times when people will say things that you don’t want to hear. Those cultures that embrace and accept this fact flourish through the free exchange of ideas and knowledge. It is also true that if you allow people to speak freely then sometimes debates will descend into mud-slinging matches. The comments thread on one article has moved beyond open debate leading me to post the following comment.
This comment thread has veered significantly from the subject of Dore’s sales and marketing techniques. In doing so both sides have crossed the line from robust debate about an important subject into personal attacks on named individuals. Myomancy is not the place for this and the participants have plenty of other avenues through which they can settle their grievances.
This comment thread is now closed.
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December 13th, 2006
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Comments on: Of Comments and the Nature of Open Debate
Hi Chris. Maybe in 2007 we’ll get to meet in person (I hope to travel to the UK in the fall).
In the meantime, maybe you need to construct a commenting policy.
Here’s a link to one that I think is well done:
http://happycatholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/complete-blog-commenting-guidelines.html
Here’s a link to my own blogging policy.
http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2005/12/blogging_princi.html
Posted by: Liz December 13th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
Dear Chris
I agree with the action and the reason you have stopped comments being put on the thread about the apalling standard of sales management at DORE.
Its got too personal and I appreciate you need to draw the line somewhere.Please will you tell us though about the other avenues you mention……..you see those who work or did work under this regime all share very importantant viewpoints…Wynford great guy…..Programme Great…….Changes lives Definately.
Staff morale and treatment received ….apalling.
See its dicey to blow the whistle…..you’ll be out rapid if you identify yourself.
Its a shame because all of this might end in the teacup, at nuremberg or perish the thought for us all …..Watchdog.
Posted by: existing employee December 14th, 2006 at 10:30 am
I will repeat my previous requests.
If anybody has a grievence they want to air to me direct please do so without any fear or threat.
I operate an open door policy and would welcome any feedback direct to me rather than in an open forum.
Posted by: bob.clarke December 15th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Direct question to Bob Clarke.
Is it true that next year if we hit less than 70% of our target in a month we will be put on disiplinary which could result in dismissal ?
Posted by: paula December 17th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Well Bob.
they don’t come much more straightforward than the last one do they….?
Unless of course you want or need to keep things sweet..perfectly fair, no heavy sales pressure,and all of that absolute garbage.
Are we to be disciplined for failing to hit 70% of your target or not ?
Posted by: existing employee December 18th, 2006 at 9:39 am
I have tried e mailing both the previous posters, but my e mails are bouncing back.
I will not confirm, deny or discuss any internal business on a public site. I will however speak with anyone (without any comeback) that wants to speak to me direct.
Posted by: Bob Clarke December 18th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Its obvious Bob is struggling with the answer to the earlier straight question on Dore Managements Sales “Incentives”…headed up by him and carried out by his middle managers with military precision.
Perhaps the question ought to be asked by someone else and its highly likely it will be with the way things are going.
The idea of “ring me with no consequence “is an insult to everyone with half a brain……people are frightened of losing their jobs, they simply Don’t trust the words of reassurance.
Isn’t this WHOLE thing indicative of the poorest skills of people management you are ever likely to see ?
Posted by: existing employee December 21st, 2006 at 9:43 am
I no that most off you have every right not to believe what Bob is saying however i did have a chat direct with Bob and to my knowledge it has stayed confidential So go on if things are that bad give it a go what have you got to lose anyway, I do beleive that Bob does care
Posted by: dore December 21st, 2006 at 2:05 pm
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